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Miss me? [Dec. 6th, 2007|02:24 am]
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Another cold nearly over and I’m back! Woo!

So I finished Lost and Found a while ago...

I feel like a complete idiot for falling for the whole “Braouk eats Sque and George” ruse. I mean, I knew that George and Sque weren’t dead because they’re on the cover of one of the other novels (well, really it’s only Sque’s tentacle). I just thought Marc would convince Braouk to cough them up before they were both gone for good.

I really should have seen that coming, but it seemed like such a plausible thing to happen, what with Braouk’s unpredictable temper and Sque’s talent of saying the wrong things at the wrong time. I suppose it’s a testament to their spectacular acting abilities.

However, once it was made clear that this spectacle was all part of their escape plan, I knew that Braouk had placed Sque and George on the platform while he covered the hole with his mouth, making it look like he was just devouring the food bricks.

I smiled at Sque practically divebombing the joqil-laced food and carrying as much as she could. “Joqil! How I have missed it.” I love seeing her shed her higher-than-thou attitude every now and again.

Sque made disapproving sounds. “Mere physical modifications mean nothing.”

“Is that so?” The dog pointedly eyed the assortment of adornments that decorated the K’eremu’s epidermis. “Then why don’t you get rid of all that junk jewelry you’ve got stuck all over yourself? You look like an itinerant garage sale.”

Sque stiffened perceptively. “It is not ‘junk.’ It is not even properly what you call jewelry. My accumulated qus’ta is an affirmation of my individuality; one that is vital to every K’eremu.”


Sounds like I was right about the gems and such being “glued” to her skin. I wonder how strong the adhesive is, and if K’eremu like her have to put up with them falling off at times.

I am so very, very glad that Marc got to get a little revenge on the Ghouaba after escaping, although I think he got a little too bloodthirsty. At least he didn’t kill him, I suppose. Of course, crippling him to such a degree could be seen as worse, depending on your point of view.

So anyway, after tricking the Vilenjji a few times in an effort to keep the captors off their trail (excrement on the maintenance bot DDDD: , thank goodness that we didn’t have to read a detailed account of that), Marc, George, Sque, and Braouk highjack an escape pod. They don’t really get to go anywhere, because they are almost immediately picked up and saved by...

-The Sessrimathe-

- Roughly triangular bodies
- No neck
- Three eyes (one facing forward, one facing left, one facing right)
- Three legs arranged in a tripodal fashion, terminate in three long digits (each?)
- Three arms and hands
- Small and feathery hearing or smelling organ above each eye
- No visible nostrils
- Small triangular mouth under forward eye (devoid of visible teeth)
- Light beige skin
- Wear tight fitting clothing of bright white, belts and straps vibrantly colour-coded, toes in slippers clearly delineated (starship uniforms only?)
- At least three sexes: male, female, and neuter


It took me a little bit of time to get a good mental image of these guys, but not too long.

It sounds like they look kinda...cute, in a way. At least to me. augh why do I have such a weird aesthetic taste?

This sentence jumped out at me when they were al talking about being able to go home:

Only Sque exhibited no elation, restrained by a natural reticence and...something else.

Interesting! Sque seems a little reluctant to go home. Foreshadowing, perhaps? Or is it just a red herring?

Also, good luck on finding your specific home planets, guys. You’re all up shit creek without a paddle. Next time I go camping, I’m going to take a globe with me just in case I find myself in such a situation. And maybe this.

Other craft, Walker and his friends had been assured, were taking equally good care of the remaining captives. Reminiscing fondly about the gentle Sesu and the beautiful Aulaanites, he hoped they were coping adequately.

OH HAY, I see Marc is still very fond of the Aulaanites! Hehehe. Why do I find his fascination with them so amusing?

Speaking of fascination...

”We’re glad to see you again, too.” Walker was breathing hard, but with the amount of adrenaline that was surging through him at that moment, he felt as if he could run all the way back to Earth. I don’t know how you did it, Sque, but you did it.” And leaning over, he planted without hesitation, a loud, echoing kiss smack atop the shiny dome of her head.

She squirmed away from him. “How dare you! After what I have just done for you!”

“That is a sign of endearment among my kind,” he informed her. A glance showed an amused George nodding confirmation.

“Oh. I suppose that is all right, then.” A tentacle tip brushed self-consciously across the top of her head. “As a superior being, one must learn to tolerate the archaic affectations of primitive peoples, I suppose. At least the gesture was not dehydrating.”


---

” That is my nice, single-minded little biped,” Sque commented approvingly.

---

”Sque?”

“You’re asking my opinion? I always knew despite the disparity in physical dimensions which of you two was the more gifted.” Familiar by now with the K’eremu’s casually disparaging speech, Walker said nothing. He had come to find her unbounded egotism almost endearing.


Lord help me, I think I’m getting Sque/Marc vibes. And I like it. A lot. If she was real, Sque would be so disgusted with me for that.

I know she’s talking to and complimenting George in that last one, but the fact that Marc is starting to find Sque endearing made me smirk. After all, a few chapters ago he was fighting the urge to punch her for her pompousness.

And “commented approvingly”? No hint of sarcasm at all? Hmm...

Now onto the next book!

Completely unrelated, but Japan? Every time I manage to convince myself that your fascination with making inappropriate things cute is just a stereotype, you do stuff like this to prove me wrong.
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[User Picture]From: melaniedavidson
2007-12-06 04:34 pm (UTC)
Welcome back! Here's hoping for good health for the rest of winter. :X

I just thought Marc would convince Braouk to cough them up before they were both gone for good.

I must be a little jaded, because as soon as I saw something so unexpected happen, I knew it had to be part of their big mysterious plan. Just not how.... It was a bit of a shock, though!

Sounds like I was right about the gems and such being “glued” to her skin. I wonder how strong the adhesive is, and if K’eremu like her have to put up with them falling off at times.

Oh hey, that's right! Looks like I need to read more carefully. :B ...I wonder if it's permanent, or semi-permanent, like tattoos? I mean, she makes it sound like it's pretty culturally important, so it seems like they'd want to avoid having it fall off. And I don't think we ever see her, oh, taking it off for cleaning or anything like that.

I am so very, very glad that Marc got to get a little revenge on the Ghouaba after escaping, although I think he got a little too bloodthirsty.

Yeeeeaaah, I think he got a little obsessed there. Sometimes it's healthier to just let it go, man.

Only Sque exhibited no elation, restrained by a natural reticence and...something else.

I think Sque just has a better understanding of how many stars there are in the galaxy, how far they are from home, and how difficult it's going to be to find their way back.

Next time I go camping, I’m going to take a globe with me just in case I find myself in such a situation. And maybe this.

Ha! I have this t-shirt with a picture of the Milky Way and a "you are here" arrow.... And no kidding. How many stars are in the galaxy? Like a billion, right? Oh, no, wait, it's two hundred billion!

OH HAY, I see Marc is still very fond of the Aulaanites! Hehehe. Why do I find his fascination with them so amusing?

I know, right? XD I do wish we'd seen him interact a little more with them and the others, but I guess that would have made it more difficult to see him leave them behind.

Lord help me, I think I’m getting Sque/Marc vibes. And I like it. A lot. If she was real, Sque would be so disgusted with me for that.
I know she’s talking to and complimenting George in that last one, but the fact that Marc is starting to find Sque endearing made me smirk.


I KNOW isn't it just adorable? And her tentacles have nothing whatsoever to do with it. But I can't see Sque being willing to go that far with a member of an inferior species. :P

Completely unrelated, but Japan? Every time I manage to convince myself that your fascination with making inappropriate things cute is just a stereotype, you do stuff like this to prove me wrong.

aaaaaAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAH

XD
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[User Picture]From: curious_velvet
2007-12-07 05:32 am (UTC)
Welcome back! Here's hoping for good health for the rest of winter. :X

Yeah, winter likes to kick my arse sometimes. Here’s hoping I don’t catch anything over the holidays too. *crosses fingers*

I must be a little jaded, because as soon as I saw something so unexpected happen, I knew it had to be part of their big mysterious plan. Just not how.... It was a bit of a shock, though!

See, that thought passed my mind too. Since the shock of Desvendapur dying senselessly after we spend nearly the entire book on him, though, I wouldn’t put it past Alan to mess with me like that at least once more. I AM WARY OF YOU, MR. FOSTER.

Oh hey, that's right! Looks like I need to read more carefully. :B ...I wonder if it's permanent, or semi-permanent, like tattoos? I mean, she makes it sound like it's pretty culturally important, so it seems like they'd want to avoid having it fall off. And I don't think we ever see her, oh, taking it off for cleaning or anything like that.

At least semi-permanent, yeah. Since she says that it’s “accumulated”, maybe that means that the K’eremu change or add to the decorations as they age and/or because of personal accomplishments?

Maybe it’s even embedded into the skin somehow. Man, that’d be freaky. :O

Since K’eremu don’t seem to wear what we’d normally think of as clothing and the fact that they move around on their tentacles, they’d really have to make sure that they’re stuck on there for good, or else they’d be shedding jewelry wherever they walked.

Yeeeeaaah, I think he got a little obsessed there. Sometimes it's healthier to just let it go, man.

All I kept thinking was “Jesus Christ, Marc. Marc! You can stop anytime now. Really.”

I’m glad George was there. It could’ve gotten pretty ugly if he hadn’t snapped Marc out of it.

I think Sque just has a better understanding of how many stars there are in the galaxy, how far they are from home, and how difficult it's going to be to find their way back.

Oh duuuurrrrr, I didn’t even think of that. :B It’s so obvious now. WHOOPS.

Ha! I have this t-shirt with a picture of the Milky Way and a "you are here" arrow.... And no kidding. How many stars are in the galaxy? Like a billion, right? Oh, no, wait, it's two hundred billion!

I’ve seen those t-shirts before! :D ‘Always wanted one. I love how that little detail didn’t even come across Marc’s mind until they were saved. WAY TO GO, CHAMP! I was wondering how they were going to solve that problem way back when they were first talking about their escape plans.

I know, right? XD I do wish we'd seen him interact a little more with them and the others, but I guess that would have made it more difficult to see him leave them behind.

It would’ve made for a much longer novel, that’s for sure. But you’re right, there’s really not much point in introducing characters that you’re going to leave behind soon anyway.

I still would’ve loved to learn more, of course, if only to satiate my backstory/worldbuilding/alien culture fetish.

I KNOW isn't it just adorable? And her tentacles have nothing whatsoever to do with it. But I can't see Sque being willing to go that far with a member of an inferior species. :P

It IS! I was just awwwing like a complete sap through all those parts. Liar. ;P

Yeah, she most likely wouldn’t go for something so...intimate with her inferiors but dammit I can dream it would certainly be something to see if that .0001% chance happened, don’t you think?

aaaaaAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAH

XD


It gets better! From what I can understand of the little product blurb apparently the cute little girl is Cthulhu himself in disguise! XD Tentacle monsters becoming little loli Japanese schoolgirls... We’ve truly come full circle now.

Oh, Japan. Never change.
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[User Picture]From: melaniedavidson
2007-12-07 05:51 am (UTC)
Eugh, that'd be just the thing. I hope you don't! I usually seem to have a low-grade cold or flu or something for most of the winter or spring... nothing serious, just a stuffy nose, but a little unpleasant, you know? But I'd rather have that than be knocked out by it.

See, that thought passed my mind too. Since the shock of Desvendapur dying senselessly after we spend nearly the entire book on him, though, I wouldn’t put it past Alan to mess with me like that at least once more. I AM WARY OF YOU, MR. FOSTER.

Yeah, he's... not shy about killing off MAJOR IMPORTANT CHARACTERS WHO I LOVED cough sorry about that sometimes. :X

At least semi-permanent, yeah. Since she says that it’s “accumulated”, maybe that means that the K’eremu change or add to the decorations as they age and/or because of personal accomplishments?

*nod* Just what I was thinking... and maybe they can be removed, but only with difficulty, and it has special significance... like abandoning part of yourself or part of your past, something like that.

Maybe it’s even embedded into the skin somehow. Man, that’d be freaky. :O

It could be! Something like piercings... waterproof industrial-grade glue seems like a better bet, though.

Since K’eremu don’t seem to wear what we’d normally think of as clothing and the fact that they move around on their tentacles, they’d really have to make sure that they’re stuck on there for good, or else they’d be shedding jewelry wherever they walked.

True. Or maybe they only decorate areas that they don't walk on, the tops of the tentacles? Actually it seems like it'd be pretty uncomfortable to walk on bits of metal all the time.

All I kept thinking was “Jesus Christ, Marc. Marc! You can stop anytime now. Really.”

I’m glad George was there. It could’ve gotten pretty ugly if he hadn’t snapped Marc out of it.


Yeah. AND it was a stupid risk, because he could have gotten them caught. Way to go, Marc.

I’ve seen those t-shirts before! :D ‘Always wanted one.

I'm wearing it right now! :D It has "Space Odyssey" above the picture... my parents got it for me when they went to some sciency thing, at the museum I think.

I love how that little detail didn’t even come across Marc’s mind until they were saved. WAY TO GO, CHAMP! I was wondering how they were going to solve that problem way back when they were first talking about their escape plans.

Haha, I know! I guess maybe he figured that there was this huge galactic society thing, so of course they MUST know where Earth is.

It would’ve made for a much longer novel, that’s for sure. But you’re right, there’s really not much point in introducing characters that you’re going to leave behind soon anyway.

Not that I'd be complaining about a longer novel! ;) But it does get a little frustrating to meet people and get all interested and then never see them again.

I still would’ve loved to learn more, of course, if only to satiate my backstory/worldbuilding/alien culture fetish.

Let me tell you, you're going to love some of the Flinx books. :D There's some that are basically just him wandering around an alien world for contrived various reasons and checking out their cultures and stuff and it's SO COOL kalfjla;sjkdf;al
Also, Sentenced to Prism is neat like that (guy exploring an awesome and really different alien world) and did I mention it's separate from all the other stories? It has absolutely nothing to do with them aside from being in the same universe. No common characters or anything. So even though it's at the end of the timeline you can really read it any time hint hint.

Liar. ;P

WELL maybe just a little bit. ;)

it would certainly be something to see if that .0001% chance happened, don’t you think?

No kidding! And I wonder what could lead up to it aside from one of those really stupid tropes like sex pollon or something, I mean where everyone involved is in control of their actions.

It gets better! [snip] circle now.

I... I just.... no words. XD

Oh! And check this out! >:)
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[User Picture]From: curious_velvet
2007-12-07 06:58 am (UTC)
Yeah, he's... not shy about killing off MAJOR IMPORTANT CHARACTERS WHO I LOVED cough sorry about that sometimes. :X

Des... ;_; Don’t feel sorry for the outburst. I loved that crazy poet too. <3

*nod* Just what I was thinking... and maybe they can be removed, but only with difficulty, and it has special significance... like abandoning part of yourself or part of your past, something like that.

Or maybe only a special specific solvent could remove them. Then perhaps even little things like being promoted at you job could bring about a bit of change to the design. That’d be really cool.

It could be! Something like piercings... waterproof industrial-grade glue seems like a better bet, though.

I’m trying to picture what that must be like, but I just can’t imagine having things stuck to my skin like that. The K’eremu are HARDCORE.

True. Or maybe they only decorate areas that they don't walk on, the tops of the tentacles? Actually it seems like it'd be pretty uncomfortable to walk on bits of metal all the time.

Ahh, yeah, you’re right. Even octopi seem to walk mostly on the underside of their tentacles.

Yeah. AND it was a stupid risk, because he could have gotten them caught. Way to go, Marc.

I know! It’s like...just kick him in the shin once or twice or something and be done with it if you really want a little payback, Marc. No need to beat him to a bloody pulp and risk getting captured again.

I'm wearing it right now! :D It has "Space Odyssey" above the picture... my parents got it for me when they went to some sciency thing, at the museum I think.

Damn, why can there be cool sciency stuff around here where they sell t-shirts? :<

Haha, I know! I guess maybe he figured that there was this huge galactic society thing, so of course they MUST know where Earth is.

And we all know what happens when you assume to much, right? ;) Yeah, Marc, of course they catalogue every planet in the galaxy with sentient life. Even backwater places like Earth!

Not that I'd be complaining about a longer novel! ;) But it does get a little frustrating to meet people and get all interested and then never see them again.

There’d be no complaints from me either, I assure you.

Let me tell you, you're going to love some of the Flinx books. :D There's some that are basically just him wandering around an alien world for contrived various reasons and checking out their cultures and stuff and it's SO COOL kalfjla;sjkdf;al
Also, Sentenced to Prism is neat like that (guy exploring an awesome and really different alien world) and did I mention it's separate from all the other stories? It has absolutely nothing to do with them aside from being in the same universe. No common characters or anything. So even though it's at the end of the timeline you can really read it any time hint hint.


ABLKBH;u;fwiagriewhfnfklsslj;lkf. *drools* Oh man, I’m going to die of happiness when I read those, aren’t I? Guh.

I thought Sentenced to Prism might be like that, but I wasn’t sure. A lot of people seem to think that it’s one of the best ADF books, too. Well now I know what book I want next, at least. :D

WELL maybe just a little bit. ;)

Only a little? >3

No kidding! And I wonder what could lead up to it aside from one of those really stupid tropes like sex pollon or something, I mean where everyone involved is in control of their actions.

Oh yeah, it’d have to be something way more plausible and awesome. Hmm... She doesn’t seem to be the curious type, and I don’t think Marc, if he was ever interested, could ever seduce her (She’d just laugh. Or be offended.)...

I... I just.... no words. XD

Oh! And check this out ! >:)


AHAHAHA! Best. Cake. EVAR! XD
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[User Picture]From: melaniedavidson
2007-12-07 07:42 am (UTC)
Or maybe only a special specific solvent could remove them.

Oh yeah, durrr, that'd make more sense. :B And I like the idea of little rearrangements for little things.

I’m trying to picture what that must be like, but I just can’t imagine having things stuck to my skin like that. The K’eremu are HARDCORE.

Yeah, it seems like they'd bump into things all the time and get in the way... maybe they're fairly flat and rounded, though, and nearly flush with the skin? Or maybe most of their bodies don't come into contact with things very often.

Ahh, yeah, you’re right. Even octopi seem to walk mostly on the underside of their tentacles.

Oh WOW that's an amazing video! :O I'm honestly surprised that they can eat crabs, too, I mean they're so hard and spiky and pinchy but the octopus didn't seem to have any problem... and the last one, the "flexibility" one, that's just so cool to watch. :D I'm pretty sure I saw this other one that looked even more extreme, though... it was just going through a hole in a box, but IIRC the hole was smaller and I really wonder how it could do that without squishing all its organs (especially its brain) around, it's just amazing isn't it? And you could see its head sort of inflating and deflating... I wonder what that is? If it's breathing, or what? Dang.

I know! [snip] No need to beat him to a bloody pulp and risk getting captured again.

And he didn't even really hurt Marc, either... I mean he was despicable but he didn't have much effect. Like Marc could have accomplished anything with that thing he found (what was it... a knife?).

Damn, why can there be cool sciency stuff around here where they sell t-shirts? :<

It glows in the dark, too! :D But cheer up, there's always ThinkGeek which has a similar one and some others... mmmmm.... Damn, now I want to shop.

And we all know what happens when you assume to much, right? ;) Yeah, Marc, of course they catalogue every planet in the galaxy with sentient life. Even backwater places like Earth!

Even planets that clearly aren't involved in their society and are far enough away from the center that the Vlhoweverthey'respelled can semi-safely drop by and snag a few... "specimens".

ABLKBH;u;fwiagriewhfnfklsslj;lkf. *drools* Oh man, I’m going to die of happiness when I read those, aren’t I? Guh.

I HOPE SO except in a metaphorical way without actually dying. :D

I thought Sentenced to Prism might be like that, but I wasn’t sure. A lot of people seem to think that it’s one of the best ADF books, too. Well now I know what book I want next, at least. :D

It definitely is! :D And, I am one of those people. It is amazing jasl;kdfj; Get it, get it! :D I want to squee at you about it!

Only a little? >3
Or a lot BUT HEY WHO'S COUNTING

Oh yeah, it’d have to be something way more plausible and awesome. Hmm... She doesn’t seem to be the curious type, and I don’t think Marc, if he was ever interested, could ever seduce her (She’d just laugh. Or be offended.)...

At least not curious in that sense.... I think if Marc tried to seduce her she'd be incredibly patronizing about it and... either her estimation of his intelligence would go right down, or she'd consider that it was because she was clearly incredibly desirable, since she was so superior, and he couldn't be expected to know any better anyway.
Awkward.
And I can't imagine that just being in a life-threatening situation would do it, either.

AHAHAHA! Best. Cake. EVAR! XD

I want a tentacle cake! :3

Oh and have you seen that Phoenix Wright kink meme? THAT HAS TENTACLES TOO seriously there's two good tentacle rape (um, but it's much less creepy than you might think! Really!) fics over there and there's continuity and I'm not even in the fandom (heck, I haven't even played the games... sad, huh?) but still. 1 and 2 and I definitely didn't have anything to do with requesting the second one or anything what are you talking about I'm not horrible
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[User Picture]From: curious_velvet
2007-12-10 05:33 am (UTC)

Part 1

Yeah, it seems like they'd bump into things all the time and get in the way... maybe they're fairly flat and rounded, though, and nearly flush with the skin? Or maybe most of their bodies don't come into contact with things very often.

Being close to the skin would solve that, yeah. Although didn’t the book say somewhere that she made a little noise when she walked? I could be imagining things.

Not usually coming into contact with much of anything is very likely as well, seeing as the K’eremu don’t seem like they go out much to socialize.

Oh WOW that's an amazing video! :O I'm honestly surprised that they can eat crabs, too, I mean they're so hard and spiky and pinchy but the octopus didn't seem to have any problem... and the last one, the "flexibility" one, that's just so cool to watch. :D I'm pretty sure I saw this other one that looked even more extreme, though... it was just going through a hole in a box, but IIRC the hole was smaller and I really wonder how it could do that without squishing all its organs (especially its brain) around, it's just amazing isn't it? And you could see its head sort of inflating and deflating... I wonder what that is? If it's breathing, or what? Dang.

Nah, crabs are no problem since they have beaks and all.

Octopuses are incredibly fascinating and one of the most highly intelligent and clever creatures on Earth, and it’s really no surprise to me that Alan based a very advanced alien race on them. Hell, even some experts describe them as having an “alien intelligence”.

The flexibility is awesome, isn’t it? Since they don’t have any bones and the only hard piece of anatomy they have is the beak, they can get into some tiny, tiny spaces. It’s one of the things you have to watch out for if you ever keep an octopus as a pet. They’re well known for squeezing their way out of aquariums.

And did you know that they can taste things with their suction cups? :O

And he didn't even really hurt Marc, either... I mean he was despicable but he didn't have much effect. Like Marc could have accomplished anything with that thing he found (what was it... a knife?).

It was some sort of knife thing, yeah. And you’re right, what was he gonna do with it? Stab the other captives? Try and kill as many Vilenjji as he could before he’d get restrained and tossed into his enclosure again?

The little bugger was basically just a tattletale. Not much of a threat at all.

It glows in the dark, too! :D But cheer up, there's always ThinkGeek which has a similar one and some others... mmmmm.... Damn, now I want to shop.

Ah, ThinkGeek. What awesome stuff don’t you think of? <3

Even planets that clearly aren't involved in their society and are far enough away from the center that the Vlhoweverthey'respelled can semi-safely drop by and snag a few... "specimens".

I HOPE SO except in a metaphorical way without actually dying. :D

Hehehe, true. You have to admit, it would be one of the best ways to go: Death by sheer amounts of awesome!

But then I wouldn’t be able to talk to anyone about it, so...

It definitely is! :D And, I am one of those people. It is amazing jasl;kdfj; Get it, get it! :D I want to squee at you about it!

Sounds like I have something to put on my Christmas or birthday wishlist. Shared squee-age, yay! :D

Or a lot BUT HEY WHO'S COUNTING

I guess we’re both just totally gay for Sque. XD
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[User Picture]From: melaniedavidson
2007-12-10 05:45 am (UTC)

Re: Part 1

Being close to the skin would solve that, yeah. Although didn’t the book say somewhere that she made a little noise when she walked? I could be imagining things.

Hmmmm... it might have. That could be just jingling, though... maybe some of them have dangling parts. Or maybe they bump up against each other?

Nah, crabs are no problem since they have beaks and all.

And I guess they could probably pull them apart fairly easily with their arms. :B

I know! They're just so cool. :D ...Ooooooo. video! *will watch after typing*

It's still sort of mindboggling, though... I mean, would you want to have, say, your heart squished around like that, even though it's just muscle? And I bet doing that with someone's brain would have unfortunate results. I wonder if that means all their organs are particularly made to be squishable.

And did you know that they can taste things with their suction cups? :O

...That is freaky-awesome. :O

Exactly. Marc would only have gotten himself in worse trouble if he'd actually tried to do anything with the knife.

Hehehe, true. You have to admit, it would be one of the best ways to go: Death by sheer amounts of awesome!

...Somehow that reminds me of all those people who say they want to die "in bed". (Although, less creepy, since the other one would probably be pretty scarring for the other person.)

Sounds like I have something to put on my Christmas or birthday wishlist. Shared squee-age, yay! :D

Shared squee-age is the best kind! :D Squee shared is squee squared.

I guess we’re both just totally gay for Sque. XD

I guess so! :D
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[User Picture]From: curious_velvet
2007-12-11 05:33 am (UTC)
Hmmmm... it might have. That could be just jingling, though... maybe some of them have dangling parts. Or maybe they bump up against each other?

True, she could have a bunch of loose jewelry that clashes together as well as the regular ones. Kind of like dangling earrings, except that she doesn’t have outer earflaps like we do so they’d have to be somewhere else so that they don’t bump into or get caught on things.

And I guess they could probably pull them apart fairly easily with their arms. :B

That too. :)

I know! They're just so cool. :D ...Ooooooo. video! *will watch after typing*

It's still sort of mindboggling, though... I mean, would you want to have, say, your heart squished around like that, even though it's just muscle? And I bet doing that with someone's brain would have unfortunate results. I wonder if that means all their organs are particularly made to be squishable.


Oh yes, they’d have to be made to be squished. Or maybe all these organs are small anyway?

Guh, the pain of squishing internal organs would be excruciating (and, in most cases, lethal!) for a human. D:

...That is freaky-awesome. :O

Indeed! Now imagine if tentacled aliens such as Sque have retained this ability even when they’re this evolved...

Yeah. ;)

...Somehow that reminds me of all those people who say they want to die "in bed". (Although, less creepy, since the other one would probably be pretty scarring for the other person.)

Heh. Well now that you mention it, it does sound like that, doesn’t it? I didn’t even intend to make that bit of innuendo.

Augh! A traumatic experience, to be sure! Especially if they were still...uh...”connected” when the other person found out. D:

Shared squee-age is the best kind! :D Squee shared is squee squared.

...

XD You have no idea how much that made me laugh just now. Hahahahaha! XD

Also, I just noticed that “squee” is one letter away from “Sque”. Heh.
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[User Picture]From: melaniedavidson
2007-12-11 05:55 am (UTC)
Kind of like dangling earrings, except that she doesn’t have outer earflaps like we do so they’d have to be somewhere else so that they don’t bump into or get caught on things.

*nod* I think the head would be the best bet, there... the tentacles are probably moving around and over each other all the time, so anything dangling there could get tangled.

Guh, the pain of squishing internal organs would be excruciating (and, in most cases, lethal!) for a human. D:

No kidding. D: And that page said they have a large brain-to-body-mass ratio, so that seems to rule out "small", leaving only "squishable". I wonder how that works. :O

Indeed! Now imagine if tentacled aliens such as Sque have retained this ability even when they’re this evolved...


...Well! XD

Hey, imagine if they had that same skin-texture-changing ability.

Heh. Well now that you mention it, it does sound like that, doesn’t it? I didn’t even intend to make that bit of innuendo.

LOL, well, I'm not sure the association is entirely... natural? :B

Eargh, yeah. And in some versions the other person dies, too (since it's the same thing killing both of them). I don't know if that's better, or worse. D:

XD You have no idea how much that made me laugh just now. Hahahahaha! XD

^_^ Thank you! Although I have to admit I sort of semi-nicked it from Spider Robinson's "Shared pain is lessened, shared joy is increased" bit (although, research tells me the actual one I was thinking of was "Shared despair is squared; shared hope is cubed (or better: raised to the power of infinity?)", but it's still one of his).
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[User Picture]From: melaniedavidson
2007-12-10 06:52 am (UTC)

Re: Part 1

...

Are squid and octopuses really intelligent or have researchers been seduced by their alien charms?

have researchers been seduced by their alien charms?

seduced by their alien charms?

...Er. XD

The observational learning thing is bizarre (especially the bit about it being more effective than the Pavlovian type!), if it's true... I wonder if it's a side effect of something else, or if it just means there's something about their lives that we don't have a clue about, that they need it for? Or if they evolved from more social creatures and just never lost it. Or something else?

And the texture-changing thing is so cool. So's the way they change color, actually; it's just that I'd heard of that before (although, of squids, and in a novel... I guess the author did research. Even mentioned that it was muscular and not chemical!).

If they do have actual language, that would be amazing. I remember from my linguistics class that we haven't been able to find any non-human animals that we can show have language (according to a particular definition, not the common one (you know, the way "theory" means something different in the scientific community than it does in common usage)... I forget the exact criteria, though).

...Hey, I didn't know they were (all? The article talks about it as though they all are to some extent) poisonous. :O I can see its usefulness, though.

Gah, the bits about removing parts of their brains to see how they learn are just... creepy. D:
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[User Picture]From: curious_velvet
2007-12-11 05:58 am (UTC)
...

Are squid and octopuses really intelligent or have researchers been seduced by their alien charms?

have researchers been seduced by their alien charms?

seduced by their alien charms?

...Er. XD


AHAHAHA, yes! XD I was wondering if you’d noticed that!

I know I’ve be seduced by alien charm in my time *cough*ZEXandotherSC2racesandSque*cough*.

The observational learning thing is bizarre (especially the bit about it being more effective than the Pavlovian type!), if it's true... I wonder if it's a side effect of something else, or if it just means there's something about their lives that we don't have a clue about, that they need it for? Or if they evolved from more social creatures and just never lost it. Or something else?

Learning through observation is a great skill when trying to survive. I imagine it’s mostly an evolutionary ability that developed to give them yet another advantage over prey.

Maybe it changed over from a social thing to a pure survival skill when octopuses drifted away from communal groups?

(Just to tie this back to Lost and Found, notice that the K’eremu tend to keep to themselves as well? Alan must’ve done his homework.)

And the texture-changing thing is so cool. So's the way they change color, actually; it's just that I'd heard of that before (although, of squids, and in a novel... I guess the author did research. Even mentioned that it was muscular and not chemical!).

The change is absolutely amazing to watch, too.

If they do have actual language, that would be amazing. I remember from my linguistics class that we haven't been able to find any non-human animals that we can show have language (according to a particular definition, not the common one (you know, the way "theory" means something different in the scientific community than it does in common usage)... I forget the exact criteria, though).

I know! That would be so cool, even if it’s just really simplistic stuff like “Danger!” and “Hey everyone, I found food!” or something. People have been trying to communicate with dolphins for a long time; imagine if it turns out they were just looking at communicating with the wrong creature all along!

...Hey, I didn't know they were (all? The article talks about it as though they all are to some extent) poisonous. :O I can see its usefulness, though.

I don’t know. I’m getting conflicting information when I look it up. Some say that only a few types are poisonous, and some say that they all are but only one type has potent enough poison to kill humans.

Gah, the bits about removing parts of their brains to see how they learn are just... creepy. D:

That made me cringe too. I mean, I know that they have to experiment to further scientific knowledge and that octopuses are non-sentient and all, but it’s still fundamentally sickening. D:
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[User Picture]From: melaniedavidson
2007-12-11 06:14 am (UTC)
NOTICED it? It leaped out and grabbed me by the eyeballs! XD

I know I’ve be seduced by alien charm in my time *cough*ZEXandotherSC2racesandSque*cough*.

Well, I can't argue with you there! ;)

Learning through observation is a great skill when trying to survive. I imagine it’s mostly an evolutionary ability that developed to give them yet another advantage over prey.

Maybe it changed over from a social thing to a pure survival skill when octopuses drifted away from communal groups?


Yeah... but the article seemed so surprised about it. :O Like, they don't spend much time around other octopi, so they wouldn't have many opportunities to learn from them in any case, so it wouldn't be very useful. It seemed like that was what it was getting at, anyway.

(Just to tie this back to Lost and Found, notice that the K’eremu tend to keep to themselves as well? Alan must’ve done his homework.)

(Hey, I'm not one to protest topic drift! ;) And that is neat.)

The change is absolutely amazing to watch, too.

Yeah, I saw that one! It's wonderful how complete the change is... I wonder if the texture is really the same, or if they fake it to some extent with color change? Dark spots where there would be shadows, and so on.

I don’t know. I’m getting conflicting information when I look it up. Some say that only a few types are poisonous, and some say that they all are but only one type has potent enough poison to kill humans.

Maybe the sources that say only a few kinds are poisonous are defining "poisonous" as "poisonous to humans". :O

That made me cringe too. I mean, I know that they have to experiment to further scientific knowledge and that octopuses are non-sentient and all, but it’s still fundamentally sickening. D:

And it seems so... unnecessary. D: I mean, there was that bit about how certain skills develop as certain parts of the brain are developing... can't they do more like that, even if it takes longer/is a little less useful? Something about destroying the brain is just squickier than destroying the rest of the body.
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[User Picture]From: curious_velvet
2007-12-10 05:35 am (UTC)

Part 2

At least not curious in that sense.... I think if Marc tried to seduce her she'd be incredibly patronizing about it and... either her estimation of his intelligence would go right down, or she'd consider that it was because she was clearly incredibly desirable, since she was so superior, and he couldn't be expected to know any better anyway.
Awkward.
And I can't imagine that just being in a life-threatening situation would do it, either.


Oh, even if it worked somehow and they tried to get intimate she’d still be patronizing.

Sque: A little to the left, biped, you’re not hitting the most pleasurable area. ...No, no, no, your left! Oh, must I do everything? *readjusts herself to compensate*
Marc: >(

For some reason I think your latter idea would be more likely to happen “Well, of course you find me desirable. Even the most thick-headed of beings would manage to come to terms with K’eremu attractiveness. I am not interested, however, in fulfilling the carnal urges of my inferiors.”

I think Sque would have to adjust her view of Marc and humans in general a bit before she’d ever consider it, sadly.

Still, it’s fun to think about. A female tentacled alien having sex with a male human is certainly a switch, eh?

I want a tentacle cake! :3

Don’t we all? ;)

Oh and have you seen that Phoenix Wright kink meme? THAT HAS TENTACLES TOO seriously there's two good tentacle rape (um, but it's much less creepy than you might think! Really!) fics over there and there's continuity and I'm not even in the fandom (heck, I haven't even played the games... sad, huh?) but still. 1 and 2 and I definitely didn't have anything to do with requesting the second one or anything what are you talking about I'm not horrible

Yes, I’ve read them both, although the second is much more appealing to me since that one’s not really a rape but more of a “Well, I didn’t come here expecting to have sex but OKAY! :D” kind of scenario.

I haven’t played the Phoenix Wright games either, but I know people who have and from their ramblings I’ve kind of gotten enough information on the plot and the character’s basic personalities and such to not be completely lost.

Hey now, that’s not horrible! There’s so little in the way of good tentacle sex stories that jumping at the chance to ask for some is nothing to be ashamed about.

Besides, it looks like it pleased a lot more people than just us. ;)


By the way, if there’s ever anything in the books that I don’t go over but you want to talk about, feel free to do so. I don’t have to be the one to hog all the topics. ;)
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[User Picture]From: melaniedavidson
2007-12-10 06:04 am (UTC)

Re: Part 2

Oh, even if it worked somehow and they tried to get intimate she’d still be patronizing.

Sque: A little to the left, biped, you’re not hitting the most pleasurable area. ...No, no, no, your left! Oh, must I do everything? *readjusts herself to compensate*
Marc: >(


Ahhaha, that's so true; she would! XD

For some reason I think your latter idea would be more likely to happen "Well, of course you find me desirable. Even the most thick-headed of beings would manage to come to terms with K’eremu attractiveness. I am not interested, however, in fulfilling the carnal urges of my inferiors."

...You know, you've got her voice down. You should write fic! :D

I wonder about the other way around, though... if she, ah, adjusted her view of Marc (and humans in general) enough to want to seduce him? Although, I think in that case there's even more of a problem with motivation not to mention, whether she would be able to put the idea in terms that wouldn't be off-puttingly condescending.

A very welcome switch!

Yes, I’ve read them both, although the second is much more appealing to me since that one’s not really a rape but more of a “Well, I didn’t come here expecting to have sex but OKAY! :D” kind of scenario.

*nodnod* Yeah... although Phoenix does go back for more, so I guess he wasn't too traumatized.

I was surprised! It seems like it's so rare outside of 4chan, so seeing someone else request it and then more people like it was weird. In a good way, obviously!

By the way, if there’s ever anything in the books that I don’t go over but you want to talk about, feel free to do so. I don’t have to be the one to hog all the topics. ;)

Hee, I will! There are a few comments I want to make about the second and third books, but I'm fairly sure they're things you'll notice, too.
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[User Picture]From: curious_velvet
2007-12-11 06:32 am (UTC)
Ahhaha, that's so true; she would! XD

And then angry sex would ensue y/n?

...

Oh lord, I’m terrible. XD

...You know, you've got her voice down. You should write fic! :D

*blush* Really? Aww, thanks for the compliment.

As I’ve said before, I haven’t written fic in years (six years, I believe :O ), but I could always give it a go... First, though, I’d have to finish the series.

I wonder about the other way around, though... if she, ah, adjusted her view of Marc (and humans in general) enough to want to seduce him? Although, I think in that case there's even more of a problem with motivation not to mention, whether she would be able to put the idea in terms that wouldn't be off-puttingly condescending.

Well, I suppose since he is the only male that she
a) Knows well enough and has formed a bond with
b) Is in enough control over his emotions that he probably wouldn’t snap and kill her over any insults she would may make (ruling out Braouk)
c) Wasn’t recently uplifted from a non-sentient animal (ruling out George)
...it might be possible.

But the question still remains about exactly why she would be “in the mood”, so to speak.

*nodnod* Yeah... although Phoenix does go back for more, so I guess he wasn't too traumatized.

True. It just somewhat reminds me of the old “no but yes” type of fics where the character in question is emotionally broken by their rapist and eventually, somehow, enjoys the rape. X(

Not that that’s exactly the feeling I’m getting from the Phoenix Wright fic, and I don’t think that it was intended that way, but you know what I mean...

I was surprised! It seems like it's so rare outside of 4chan, so seeing someone else request it and then more people like it was weird. In a good way, obviously!

I’m assuming that you mean just “tentacle sex” and not “good, well written or depicted tentacle sex”, yes? There are also those hentai movie preview link sites for that too, which I’m sure is where the denizens of 4chan get most of it from.

But yeah, it’s still really rare and a welcome surprise to know that there’s more people that are interested in the more well written stuff than just us.

Hee, I will! There are a few comments I want to make about the second and third books, but I'm fairly sure they're things you'll notice, too.

Excellent! I really enjoy our conversations. It’s really liberating to squee with someone who knows what you’re talking about. :D
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[User Picture]From: melaniedavidson
2007-12-11 07:14 am (UTC)
...Well, either angry sex or sulking. XD Or maybe not; Marc does become more inured to her insults and general attitude. And she does get slightly less caustic.

*blush* Really? Aww, thanks for the compliment.

As I’ve said before, I haven’t written fic in years (six years, I believe :O ), but I could always give it a go... First, though, I’d have to finish the series.


Really! :D It would be fabulous.

...it might be possible.

*nod* Given all that, she might consider him a viable choice.

But the question still remains about exactly why she would be “in the mood”, so to speak.

It is a puzzle... I think we can rule out "uncontrolable biological urges"/"being in heat or the equivalent" since she hasn't shown any sign of that at all in the time they've known each other, and, more compellingly, her race--being both highly intelligent and highly asocial--would have most likely found a way to control/avert that, if it was part of their makeup.

And "lonliness" doesn't really seem like her kind of motivation.

And if it were just about pleasure, I'm sure she'd be more than capable of providing that for herself. I mean, tentacles! Very dextrous. Otherwise I might be inclined towards that, since the drug addiction would seem to show she isn't all about the intellectual pursuits. Although, we don't know what the drug actually does, aside from, I guess, dulling reactions.

Maybe curiosity is the most likely thing.

True. It just somewhat reminds me of the old “no but yes” type of fics where the character in question is emotionally broken by their rapist and eventually, somehow, enjoys the rape. X(

Arrrgh, yes. And not only fics... there's this book, Dawn, that has aliens who can sort of link up with humans (...not like that, though. They sort of plug in at the back of the neck, somehow) and cause really high-grade hallucinations by stimulating the nervous system directly. And it seems like it would be a fun idea, but the direction the author took it in... *shudder* The book had a serious case of "Your lips say no but your eyes say yes especially if you're drugged," and it was treated as something that was okay, even though non-viewpoint characters seem to treat it as rape (and one human tried to kill the alien who did it to him, after the drug wore off). So creepy. D:

Not that that’s exactly the feeling I’m getting from the Phoenix Wright fic, and I don’t think that it was intended that way, but you know what I mean...

Yeah, I do know what you mean... and on the face of it, it seems like it should be a lot creepier.

I’m assuming that you mean just “tentacle sex” and not “good, well written or depicted tentacle sex”, yes? There are also those hentai movie preview link sites for that too, which I’m sure is where the denizens of 4chan get most of it from.

Ha, yes. XD 4chan has more quantity than quality. And so little of it could even easily be interpreted as consensual, too. *sigh*

Excellent! I really enjoy our conversations. It’s really liberating to squee with someone who knows what you’re talking about. :D

So do I! It really is... in fact, that's a big part of the appeal of fandom. People are a lot less inclined to look askance.

Edited at 2007-12-11 07:14 am (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: melaniedavidson
2008-02-04 02:53 am (UTC)
Heeeeyyyy! Haven't seen you around in a while. Anyway, I come bearing tentacles. Specifically, this. ♥ There's more of the series... and other, unrelated tentacles... here and here. 8D (Some of it's... rapey (the Lara Croft ones especially)... but you can generally tell from the description what it's going to be. The Field Guide and especially the Personal Journal of Dana P. Pellington are pretty much good fun, though.)
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